Delay tactics of PTCL for non payments pensions to non pensioners
Faizan sb go thorough my following email .Those who are willing to file their n/p cases in SHC , would be personally responsible such delay tactics from PTCL and can not get any fruitful results , you may believe or not.
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Tariq
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From: Tariq Azhar <azhar.tariq@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, 30 September 2016
Subject: IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE OF TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SERVICE BETWEEN T&T/PTC & PTCL EMPLOYEES.
To: Azmatullah Abbassi <azmat.abbassi@gmail.com>
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On Thursday, 29 September 2016, Azmatullah Abbassi <azmat.abbassi@gmail.com> wrote:
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From: Tariq Azhar <azhar.tariq@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, 30 September 2016
Subject: IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE OF TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SERVICE BETWEEN T&T/PTC & PTCL EMPLOYEES.
To: Azmatullah Abbassi <azmat.abbassi@gmail.com>
Cc: syed maqbool hussain zaidi <smhzptcl@gmail.com>, "a4ausaf@yahoo.com" <a4ausaf@yahoo.com>, "aaamir06@gmail.com" <aaamir06@gmail.com>, Abdul Majid <abmajid64@yahoo.com>, "abiddce@gmail.com" <abiddce@gmail.com>, "afroz.alam@hotmail.com" <afroz.alam@hotmail.com>, "aftab.surhio" <aftab.surhio@yahoo.com>, Ahsan Shaikh <ahson.ptcl@gmail.com>, "ahussain.qadri@gmail.com" <ahussain.qadri@gmail.com>, Akhtar Malik <akhtar.malik@yahoo.com>, "aladel2002pk@yahoo.co.uk" <aladel2002pk@yahoo.co.uk>, "alirehman_lhr@yahoo.com" <alirehman_lhr@yahoo.com>, "alishan.soomro@yahoo.com" <alishan.soomro@yahoo.com>, amad qureshi <paktelecomlabourunion@gmail.
On what law , rules and regulations PTCL will settle the case within six month.It is not clerified from the order of SHC as given in below taxt . I think it is just a delay tactics & loly pops from PTCL under taking. After six months PTCL will submit report to the court that according to their rules and regulations they correctly retired all such petitioners without pension. What will the next at that time?????In my opinion the SHC should issue direct order ( in a way as directed by IHC on writ petition of non CBA# WP.2684/2012 PTCL on the date 17-5-2016 to grant of all emoluments as of GoP to all such employees in PTCL employees being governed by statutory rules of GoP) for restoration of pensions within such and such period , of all such Vss non pensioners from the date of retirement ,in accordance rules and regulations of Govt Pakistan , as all such non pensionary retired VSS PTCL employees were being governed by statutory rules of GoP and PTCL had no power to increase their minimum period 10 years to twenty years for the grant of pension.Such act of PTCL was cruel one.
Where also as per Section19(1) of Civil Servant Act 1973 , a civil servant is entitled of pension on retirement (whatever be the mode of retirement) . Where as per Section 474-AA of Govt Service Rules the minimum qualified service for pension is 10 years.
Regards
Tariq
On Thursday, 29 September 2016, Azmatullah Abbassi <azmat.abbassi@gmail.com> wrote:
AzmatRegardsNext group is under process of filing petitions. Any one interested to join may contact Cell # 0333-2101014. Inform to allDear AllSyed Ansar Hussain Zaidi Advocate High Court got the decision in 237 writ petitions from High Court of Sindh in favour of transferred employees who were having service of 10 year but less than 20 years and denied pensionary benefits in VSS. Th PTCL has given undertaking to settle their issues within 6 months in accordance with law, rules and regulations.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:31 PM, syed maqbool hussain zaidi <smhzptcl@gmail.com> wrote:
TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SERVICE OF EMPLOYEES APPOINTED AFTER 01.01.1996 IN PTCL ARE ALSO PROTECTED UNDER LAW/ACT.Before privatization upto the limit of 26% shares, all employees were equal and were enjoying all benefits and perks without any discrimination. All are permanent and regular employees. There should not be any discrimination under Article-25 of the Constitution of Pakistan.Before privatization all unions including CBA and PTCL management has signed a lawful Settlement. Relevant para of Term No.1 of the Settlement is here under:-"The terms and conditions of the employment shall remain as per the existing provisions of the Pakistan Telecommunication (Re-Organization)Act, 1996 (Section 35 & 36).Effect of the Settlement and above para under the provisions of Industrial Relations Act, 2012:-Section 49 - Settlement and awards on whom binding. (c) be binding on the heirs, successors or assignees of the employer in respect of the establishment.(d) where a collective bargaining agent is one of the parties to the dispute, be binding on all workmen who were employed in the establishment on the date which the dispute first arose are who are employed therein after that date.INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS ACT, 2012:Section-64 (2) ...................However, the terms and conditions of employment secured by the workers through collective bargaining agreements, awards and decisions of Courts shall continue to be binding upon the parties until revised for betterment of workers.Question: Can the new buyer of Company's controlling share (Etisalat and present Management) change the terms and conditions of service of employees?SHAREHOLDER AGREEMENT:16.1 The Investor undertakes to GOP to procure that:(a) all existing benefits of the employees of the Company shall not be changed, varied or discontinued to the detriment of employees.............................. For avoidance of doubt, nothing in this sub-clause shall prevent the Company from transferring the service of employees to contracts of employment by mutual consent. It is clear that the terms and conditions OF all employees are protected and secured under law whether they are statutory OR non-statutory as secured by them under Acts/Laws and Agreement between Govt. of Pakistan & Etisalat.
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Maqbool Zaidi
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