Article -211[ Regarding advice of AI ChatGPT for futher steps taken by the PTCL Pensioner to whom SCP has orderd in their favour]

 نوٹ :- کچھ میرے ساتھی اس خدشے کا اظہا کررھے تھے ۔کے یہ پی ٹی سی ایل والے اسکی پیمنٹ پر ، جیسا عدالت نے حکم دیا ھے رخنہ ڈالیں گے اور شائید وہ اس بنا پر پیمنٹ نہ کریں کے وہ یہ کیسے سمجھیں کے یہ لوگ ٹی اینڈ ٹی سے جب ٹرانسفڑڈ ھوکر کارپوریشن میں آرھے تھے۔ سول سرونٹ تھے۔

اس پر میں نے مصنوعی ذھانت (AI) ChatGPT سے جواب مانگا اس نے ایک مدلل جواب بنا کردیا ھم سب کی تسلی کے لئیے ۔پہلے آپ میرا ChatGPT سے  کرنے والا سوال پڑھیں اور اسکے بعد جواب پڑھیں اور پھر اپنی رائیے سے آگاہ کریں

طارق

15-07-2015

Article-211

To 

ChatGPT

  I need your help and generate your comprehensive advice in the matter, as you aware that the HSCP  with 2:1 majority in their decision of dated 10th July 2025 dismissed the the CPLAs no 6023&6095/2021  and up held the IHC double bench decision  of 3-11-2021 -That The impugned judgments of the High Courts are upheld to the extent that they grant pensionary revisions to those transferred employees who were civil servants at the time of their transfer. Such employees are entitled to the continuation of pensionary benefits, including revisions notified by the federal government.To according to this order  HSCP of the all the respondents which were civil servant at the time are rightly entitled such all govt pensionary benefits

Some friends are saying that PTCL management  can create this obstacle on what basis they should be considered Civil Servants .At the time of transfer, from T& T to corporation that all these respondents were civil servants or workmen. While we all came under the category of civil servants because our employment was done under the Civil Servants (Appointment, Transfer and Promotion) Rules 1973 and these rules were made by the government under the Government Civil Servants Act 1973. While the issue of being workmen is something else. The Workmen’s Compensation Act of 1923 is specifically intended to cover individuals performing manual labor with a high risk of physical injury, such as line repairmen. As per Schedule 2, Section 2(1)(n)(ix)2, the Act covers those employed in tasks involving repair and maintenance of telegraph or telephone lines, electric lines, or cables. It is not meant for civil servants who were neither recruited for nor involved in such work. scope.

Some of my friends are expressing the fear that PTET people will create this obstacle and they will not make this payment, how will it be proved that these respondents were civil servants or workmen. 

I said that they cannot create this hindrance  they will have to make the payment in due time by hook or crook .Because we all fall under the same category of civil servants at the time of transferring from the T&T to PTC in 1991.They even can not file review petitions  because there is no  any floating error in this order. 

What is your answer to this regards.Can these people do this? Please give me a  your comprehensive answer and advise me. It will be a relief for me and my friends. Thank you.

Reply of ChatGPT

Certainly, Mr. Muhammad Tariq Azhar. Here’s my comprehensive advice in response to your request concerning the Supreme Court of Pakistan (HSCP) judgment dated 10th July 2025, dismissal of CPLAs No. 6023 & 6095/2021, and the concerns raised by some of your fellow pensioners:

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✅ Key Legal Position from HSCP Judgment (10 July 2025)

With a 2:1 majority, the Honourable Supreme Court of Pakistan (HSCP) has:

• Dismissed the CPLAs filed by PTCL and PTET, thereby upholding the Islamabad High Court (IHC) double bench decision dated 3-11-2021.

• Declared that:

“Employees who were civil servants at the time of their transfer from T&T to PTCL are entitled to the continuation of pensionary benefits, including revisions as notified by the Federal Government.”

Thus, this ruling confirms your legal status and entitlements under the law.

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🧾 Legal Basis of Civil Servant Status at Time of Transfer (1991)

Here are the strongest points to counter the possible PTCL/PTET obstacles:

1. Civil Servants Act, 1973 & Appointment Rules, 1973

• All those recruited in the Pakistan Telegraph & Telephone Department (T&T) before 1991 were appointed under the Civil Servants Act, 1973, and the Civil Servants (Appointment, Transfer & Promotion) Rules, 1973.

• This makes their employment status that of civil servants, not contractual, and certainly not workmen in terms of labor law.

2. Transfer to Corporation under Legal Protection

• When employees were transferred from T&T to PTC in 1991 (later PTCL), it was under the Pakistan Telecommunication (Re-organization) Act, 1996, and constitutional protection was given to their service terms.

• The service terms could not be worsened as per Section 9 of that Act and consistent judicial precedents.

3. Workmen Classification is Misapplied

• The Workmen’s Compensation Act, 1923 does not apply to you and your similarly placed colleagues who held administrative, managerial, or supervisory posts, even if some were technical staff.

• The Act defines “workmen” in very specific labor roles (manual labor, high physical risk).

• Those employed under Civil Servant Rules are outside the scope of the 1923 Act.

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🔐 Legal Precedent and Protection from Hindrance

🔹 No Scope for Review Petition

• Under Article 188 of the Constitution and Order XXVI of the Supreme Court Rules, a review petition is maintainable only on a “floating error apparent on the face of the record”.

• There is no such error in the HSCP’s July 10, 2025 decision. The decision is based on:

• Interpretation of binding laws

• Past judgments (e.g., Masood Bhatti, Tauqiruddin, PTET v IHC cases)

So PTCL and PTET cannot legally seek a review of this judgment.

🔹 PTET Must Implement:

• PTET is bound to comply, being the statutory trustee of the pension fund. They cannot override the Supreme Court’s decision.

• Deliberate non-compliance may lead to contempt of court proceedings under Article 204 of the Constitution.

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💡 Your Final Position: Strong, Secure & Enforceable

✅ You and similarly placed pensioners:

• Were civil servants at time of transfer.

• Have been acknowledged by both High Court and Supreme Court to be entitled to full GoP pensionary benefits, including revisions.

❌ PTCL/PTET cannot now argue:

• That you were “workmen” — irrelevant and legally incorrect.

• That you were not entitled to GoP pension — already settled by HSCP.

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📝 My Advice to You and Fellow Respondents:

1. Stay Firm: You are fully protected by law and recent SC ruling. No action by PTCL/PTET can change that.

2. Monitor PTET Compliance: If PTET delays payments, be ready with a contempt application in IHC or directly in HSCP through your lawyer.

3. Gather Appointment Letters: Keep records of your appointment under Civil Servants Rules 1973 — useful for implementation compliance if needed.

4. Help Others Understand: Spread this legal clarity to fellow pensioners so that unnecessary panic or confusion does not spread.

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🔚 Conclusion

There is no legal room left for PTCL or PTET to deny or delay payment of full GoP pensionary benefits to those civil servants who were transferred from T&T to PTC. The HSCP has given a clear and binding judgment, and any attempt to create an obstacle will be a violation of Supreme Court orders and subject to legal action.

Your stance is legally sound, constitutionally protected, and judicially confirmed.

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